Before leaving for the shore I received a comment from NY
TAXPAYER on the following statement I made in my post on NYS Developments -
"If a taxpayer
wants to take a risky chance and prepare his/her own state tax return using
software, I expect that the ability to submit the return electronically is
included in the package at no additional cost. So why not submit the return
electronically?"
Here is what NY TAXPAYER had to say -
“Here is one reason
why a taxpayer might be willing to use software to prepare his tax return, but
might NOT be willing to efile it.
He
would like to file a neat typed return that is easy for the state to process,
but would like to limit access to the information on his return so that ONLY
federal and state tax authorities see it, and does not want his financial
information passing through the hands of a commercial intermediary.
Not
everyone has terrific handwriting like you do, RDF.
Using
software creates a neatly typed tax return with OCR-readable characters in the
proper boxes.
Furthermore,
although tax software is flawed and capable of making mistakes, self-prepared
returns are also full of mistakes. For many taxpayers, the best approach is a
combination of the two--with careful manual cross-checking of the software,
and/or using several different software programs to cross-check the
calculations.
In
addition, NYS used to provide tax software publishers with the ability to
create 2-D barcoded version of tax returns which were very cheap to process via
OCR-readers. I assume that capability will go the way of the dinosaur in the
light of the new law.
However,
the fact that a taxpayer is willing to use software to assist in preparing his
return does not necessarily mean that he is willing to share his family's
sensitive financial data with the software company.
Efiling
a return does not mean sending it directly to the IRS. It has to go through an
intermediary. That means that Intuit, H&R Block, or some other commercial
intermediary gets access to a huge treasure-trove of sensitive financial
information (names, SSNs, bank account and routing numbers, amounts of
different types of income, etc.)
A
taxpayer who purchases a downloaded version of tax software to use on his own
machine to assist in preparing his tax return does not have to share any
information with the software company UNLESS he efiles the return, in which
case all information passes through the software company.
So the
new NYS tax law forces taxpayers who would prefer not to share their
information with a third-party software company to handwrite their own tax
returns. This is likely to add transcription errors to the process for those
taxpayers who decide to handwrite their tax returns.
I
understand that filing a paper return does cost the state a little bit more to
process (but probably not all that much, given the 2-D barcode) and I believe
some taxpayers would be willing to pay a small fee to cover that cost in
exchange for the privilege of keeping their financial information out of the
hands of software companies. (Such taxpayers already pay a significant amount
to the Post Office, which surely helps with their mounting deficit problems.)”
I
agree with NY TAXPAYER when he says –
“. . . the fact
that a taxpayer is willing to use software to assist in preparing his return
does not necessarily mean that he is willing to share his family's sensitive
financial data with the software company.”
And
I certainly sympathize with a taxpayer, regardless of state of residence, who
would “like to limit
access to the information on his return so that ONLY federal and state tax
authorities see it, and does not want his financial information passing through
the hands of a commercial intermediary”.
I have never used commercial tax preparation software to
either prepare a federal or state tax return or to “e-file” any such
returns. I have no first-hand experience
or knowledge to verify that –
“E-filing a return
does not mean sending it directly to the IRS. It has to go through an
intermediary. That means that Intuit, H&R Block, or some other commercial
intermediary gets access to a huge treasure-trove of sensitive financial
information (names, SSNs, bank account and routing numbers, amounts of different
types of income, etc.)
A
taxpayer who purchases a downloaded version of tax software to use on his own
machine to assist in preparing his tax return does not have to share any
information with the software company UNLESS he e-files the return, in which case
all information passes through the software company.”
However, I certainly would not want to benefit Henry and
Richard or any other commercial entity by providing them with personal
information that will be used for marketing or any other purpose. If NY TAXPAYER is correct this is another
reason not to use commercial tax preparation software.
As I have often publicly stated in the past, when
possible, and when the client agrees, I will electronically submit NJ state
income tax returns via the State’s NJWebFile system. There is no additional “out of pocket” cost
to use NJWebFile. It is my assumption (hopefully
I am not making an “ass” out of “u” and “me”) that because this is done through
an extension of the NJ Division of Taxation website the data is going directly to Trenton and not filtered
through any commercial software processor.
I have also said I would submit federal returns
electronically, again of the client agrees, if I could similarly transmit the
information directly to “Sam” via
the IRS website free of charge.
As an aside, one thing I have noticed with NJWebFile is that
printing out the completed return wastes more than twice as much paper as
photocopying a manual NJ-1040. Copies of
software generated federal returns show to me by clients also included a lot of
wasted paper.
The bottom line – a New York taxpayer, or one from any
other state for that matter, should not use a flawed and expensive tax
preparation software package to self-prepare his/her federal or state tax
returns. No one can dispute that a “box”
is a proper substitute for actual knowledge of the Tax Code.
If a taxpayer wants to submit “a neat typed return that is easy for the state to process” (I agree
not everyone has the flawless handwriting that I do - I have seen some horrible
handwriting on tax returns in the past) he/she can first prepare the return
manually with a pencil and then triple-check the return. The next step it to
type in the numbers from the “penciled” return onto the appropriate lines on
the blank forms available at the state tax agency website, and print-out the
return. The IRS and most states offer
“fill-in” pdf-format version tax forms on their websites – and one could use
these forms as a sort of a “word-processor”.
The best idea is to use a professional paid preparer who
has registered with the IRS and received a PTIN. If the taxpayer does not want to submit the
return electronically because of concerns about potential abuse by commercial
software companies, he/she can take the finished returns from the tax pro and
mail them to Uncles “Sam” and “Andy” (or whoever).
If NY TAXPAYER is correct when he says that using tax
preparation software to e-file returns provides the commercial software company
with access to personal taxpayer information - then I will change my mind and
strongly object to New York’s new e-file mandate for self-prepared returns
where software is used.
So what do you have to say? I look forward to receiving comments on my
above comments on a comment.
TTFN